The Authentics
Interview with Stavroula Kleidaria
December 19, 2025Aliki Paliou, A Journey Through Painting Perception: The exhibition curated by Marina Fokidis at Karla Osorio Gallery in Brazil, marks the creative meeting point of the two women
The story of how you met and how you came to the shared decision to embark on a creative collaboration.
ALIKI PALIOU: Marina and I met during my graduation project at the Athens School of Fine Arts, in Rena Papaspyrou’s studio. It was an installation with drawings, photographs, and video focusing on motherhood, as I had just had my first child at the time. Marina wrote on a small paper plate that she liked my work and wanted to meet me. I was overjoyed.
Since then, I’ve had three more children, but I never stopped painting. I simply wasn’t exhibiting my work. From the beginning, there was a mutual respect and a shared visual and conceptual language between Marina and me, so our creative collaboration emerged very naturally.
MARINA FOKIDIS: Exactly. I was struck by the way Aliki depicted the experience of motherhood, not through a rosy lens, but with honesty and multiplicity. From then on, I found her dynamic visual language, her style, and her almost obsessive use of repetition deeply compelling.
Over time, we reconnected under different circumstances and now work closely together as curator and artist. I wrote a text about the works that stemmed from that graduation project and have been consistently following her practice, which continues to surprise me.
How did the exhibition in Brazil come about, what did it include, and what was the response from the audience there
A.P.: The exhibition in Brazil followed my solo show in Vienna with Wilhelmina’s Gallery. At the same time, the Spark Festival was taking place, and Karla Osorio, who was participating in the festival, visited my exhibition. That’s how she became familiar with my work. Marina was also there, as curator of the Spark Art Fair, and that connection ultimately led to our collaboration in Brazil.
M.F.: I never stopped working closely with Aliki. I continue to present her work and invite people to her studio whom I believe would resonate with her practice. This led to several exhibitions. One of these encounters was with Karla Osorio, who saw Aliki’s work both in Vienna and later in her studio in Athens. She immediately invited us to her gallery, proposing a solo exhibition of Aliki’s work curated by me.
Marina Fokidis
Is there a story behind each work? If so, Aliki, which one do you love most and why?
A.P.: Yes, there is indeed a story behind every work. The paintings of the past two years were born out of my travels both literal and symbolic. Sometimes they are inspired by places I’ve visited, other times by moments, gestures, or situations that left a mark on me and became part of how I perceive the world. For me, painting is a way of understanding—beauty, contradictions, and the many layers that make up reality.At first glance, the works may appear light, pleasant, or like simple tourist moments, but upon closer observation they carry deeper meaning. This duality is what interests me.
For example, The Gift was inspired by my trip to Sri Lanka. It’s not merely a tourist snapshot; it’s a reflection on otherness. A child, open to new experiences and the richness of different cultures, reaches out to a local resident offering a gift. This gift is not material but symbolic, it is knowledge and a new way of seeing the world. In contrast, the posture of the adult figure, the dripping paint, and the presence of red suggest restraint, rigidity, and stereotypes already internalized.
In The Drone, a young girl pauses her play to look at a drone hovering above the sand. It appears to be an innocent moment of curiosity. But the drone carries a double meaning: it is both a toy and a weapon of war. This duality fascinates me. I want to show how violence can easily become part of everyday life, how war can silently appear, disguised as play.
In The Moon, the figure’s posture is unsettling because it doesn’t belong on the beach. She is lying as if in her bed, caught in a private moment that has somehow spilled into a public space. This collapse between intimacy and exposure reflects how, in the age of social media, our private gestures and inner states become visible, making us feel vulnerable.
The Adolescent, inspired by my walks in the forests of Rio, depicts a girl who has just bathed under a waterfall. She is half-naked, experiencing the freedom nature offers. Yet the athletic sneakers she wears, standing out clearly, remind us of consumer culture. Consumerism is present even in moments of deep connection with nature.
In After Prometheus, I reflect on living in a world of artificial intelligence, drones, and surveillance, where Prometheus’ gift is no longer fire but something colder and more ambiguous. The black object flying in the sky is a cross, a bird, a drone. We inhabit a new sky where mythical birds have become machines.
The Traffic Light, inspired by walks along Copacabana beach, addresses how different rhythms coexist in a globalized world. Two tourists walk slowly along the shore, while a Brazilian mother shields her baby under a blue umbrella. Her partner slumps into a chair, perhaps from exhaustion, perhaps resignation. Above them floats a traffic light, absurdly attempting to regulate their rhythms. One figure moves calmly through a bright yellow space, while another runs in fear. We are constantly aware of other lives unfolding elsewhere, sometimes in crisis.
If I had to choose one work, it would probably be The Drone, because through it I realized exactly what preoccupies me. It most directly condenses the dualities I explore: play and violence, innocence and threat, familiarity and unease. Painterly, it is also important to me because I used multiple layers, figures that fade, others that emerge, different painting techniques coexisting, transparencies, erasures, paint poured, thrown, or applied directly onto the canvas.
The Drone
The Gift
What kind of response did the exhibition receive from the audience in Brazil?
A.P.: It was fascinating to see how the Brazilian audience “read” the works differently, as expected, through the lens of their own experiences. In The Moon, they saw a girl sleeping on the beach, a completely normal and realistic image of everyday life in Rio, while a Portuguese viewer living temporarily in Brazil connected it to migration.
In The Traffic Light, some viewers saw a robbery unfolding while others continued their daily routines. In The Gift, some perceived an illegal transaction, while in The Drone, someone thought the girl was simply holding a kite, a symbol of freedom, without the darker connotations of a drone. A woman who grew up in the Amazon singled out The Monkey, as she was deeply moved by the image of a child observing nature through a mobile phone.
M.F.: What is truly fascinating about Brazil is the great diversity of cultures that coexist there—something unique, yet unfortunately also intertwined with profound social inequalities. Through my many visits, I’ve had the chance to meet people from different cultural backgrounds and social classes. As Aliki also described, everyone views art from the place where they themselves stand. In Brazil, there is even an expression that means, “I always speak from where my feet are planted.”
It is striking to observe that people from more privileged social classes tend to think first about crime, drugs, and similar issues when looking at paintings, whereas those who live more challenging daily lives often focus on hope, love, and joy (alegria) within the works. This brings to mind one of Aliki’s paintings, The Gift, which addresses difference: a child open to new worlds and an adult who is more restrained, perhaps already shaped by social stereotypes.
Another thing I noticed—and that gave me great joy—is the respect and honor with which exhibiting artists are treated in Brazil, and more broadly outside the strictly Western world. At the exhibition opening, the artist was clearly the central figure being honored, while the gallerist and the curator followed at a respectful distance. This pleasantly surprised me, and I found it entirely right and fair.
In what ways does art make us better and help our sense of aesthetics evolve?
A.P.: Art makes us better because it invites us to think more deeply about the world around us. It cultivates empathy, the ability to put ourselves in another person’s place and to understand different experiences and emotions. It also teaches us to observe more carefully: to notice details, contradictions, and the small stories that make up everyday life.
Our sense of aesthetics evolves when we are exposed to works that challenge us, that pose questions and refuse to leave us indifferent. Painting, like any form of art, is not decoration. It is beautiful when it has something to say, when it opens a dialogue with the viewer and transforms them, even slightly. Art helps us see differently, and that in itself is evolution.
M.F.: Aesthetics is a complex concept; there isn’t just one, but many. I became deeply aware of this during documenta 14, where I worked as part of the core team. We encountered works by Indigenous artists that did not fit neatly into my own Western understanding of contemporary art. At the time, the artistic director told me something I never forgot: “Western aesthetics may have dominated, but they do not define contemporary art. The point is not whether it pleases us, but whether it serves the balance of the culture it comes from.”
Within this framework, I believe art opens new paths and broadens our aesthetic horizons. Even the so-called “white Greek aesthetic” is a Northern European narrative the Parthenon was polychrome, painted in vibrant colors, much closer to a Latin American sensibility.
As for whether art makes us better… define better. Perhaps such distinctions aren’t necessary. Art, as an expression of our time and history, expands our horizons and in that sense, it evolves us. That much is certain.
What is considered authentic today?
A.P.: This is something I think about a lot. For me, authenticity means being able to speak about what truly concerns you, rather than what you believe belongs to the current trend. Authenticity lies in staying faithful to your own voice and questions, without adapting yourself to what is considered fashionable or appealing.
M.F.: For me, authenticity is not a cure-all. Everything begins somewhere else. All people and of course artists are influenced by their artistic “ancestors,” by art history. This is completely natural; there is no immaculate conception. What I truly value is authentic intention. When an artist or any creative person has a genuine need to express something visually, because otherwise they cannot breathe, it becomes evident. And it is remarkable, almost divine. That, for me, is authenticity.
Is it liberating to find creative paths? How common is this, and how does art contribute?
A.P.: Art has always been and remains essential; it is not a phenomenon of our time. We need it because it helps us understand the world around us and give meaning to what happens, as well as to our own emotions. It offers a creative outlet that allows us to process our experiences and face reality with greater clarity.
M.F.: Art, as Aliki also describes, exists to open pathways to our more sensual, inner world. Perhaps by observing it, we come into contact with truths that logic alone cannot articulate. It helps us understand the complexity of the world through a more emotional lens. We identify, we feel, we learn and of course, we are entertained. Art responds to our most abstract concerns and questions in an almost magical way, one that cannot always be defined in words. Perhaps that is why, despite the challenges it has faced throughout history, it never disappears.
“Culture,” and especially contemporary creation, may be a low priority for states, yet somehow it is preserved from generation to generation and continues to touch people. I hope that one day this value becomes truly visible, even to the most “hardline” politicians.
About
Aliki Paliou lives and works in Athens. She studied Theatre Studies at the University of Kent and completed her postgraduate studies in Scenography at Central Saint Martins in London. In 2005, she graduated from the Athens School of Fine Arts and has since devoted herself primarily to painting.
In March 2025, she presented a solo exhibition in Vienna with Wilhelmina’s Gallery, participated in a group exhibition at Mandraki, Hydra, and in November held a solo exhibition with Karla Osorio Gallery in Brazil, on view until January 30, 2026.
Courtesy Galeria Karla Osorio
Photography: Jean Peixoto, Estúdio 7um13”